Comments on: Why I stopped using Pickle with Cucumber http://thelucid.com/2010/02/07/why-i-stopped-using-pickle-with-cucumber/ The Lightweight Ramblings of Jamie Hill Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:06:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jamie http://thelucid.com/2010/02/07/why-i-stopped-using-pickle-with-cucumber/comment-page-1/#comment-2852 Jamie Mon, 10 May 2010 18:00:46 +0000 http://thelucid.com/?p=558#comment-2852 @Ariejan. Agreed, my original thinking was that this would remove the dependency on ActiveRecord or any ORM/language and you could in effect rewrite you entire app in another language from your features, however in practice this is not feasible due to slow down this brings. @Ariejan. Agreed, my original thinking was that this would remove the dependency on ActiveRecord or any ORM/language and you could in effect rewrite you entire app in another language from your features, however in practice this is not feasible due to slow down this brings.

]]> By: Ariejan de Vroom http://thelucid.com/2010/02/07/why-i-stopped-using-pickle-with-cucumber/comment-page-1/#comment-2851 Ariejan de Vroom Mon, 10 May 2010 16:24:00 +0000 http://thelucid.com/?p=558#comment-2851 I agree with Amos. Pickle is used with Cucumber to setup your environment (background) to run your test against. If you need five users to test your social platform search and match feature, you won't have five users sign up, read their email and confirm their account all the time? I agree with Amos. Pickle is used with Cucumber to setup your environment (background) to run your test against.

If you need five users to test your social platform search and match feature, you won’t have five users sign up, read their email and confirm their account all the time?

]]> By: Jamie http://thelucid.com/2010/02/07/why-i-stopped-using-pickle-with-cucumber/comment-page-1/#comment-2736 Jamie Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:32:55 +0000 http://thelucid.com/?p=558#comment-2736 @amos Thanks for your comment and this is very true, however I have been setting up the entries I need in the "Background" of a feature. I'm assuming this only gets run once per feature file and gets rolled back per scenario, I may be wrong. I am not too concerned about the loss in speed in any case as I have my unit tests which run fast. Also, if I decide to move from ActiveRecord to MongoMapper for example (or even from Rails to PHP), I won't have to touch my features and risk changing their validity. I suppose it's a toss up between speed and flexibility. In my case I have not found speed to be too much of an issue. I will report back if this starts to become an issue. @amos Thanks for your comment and this is very true, however I have been setting up the entries I need in the “Background” of a feature. I’m assuming this only gets run once per feature file and gets rolled back per scenario, I may be wrong.

I am not too concerned about the loss in speed in any case as I have my unit tests which run fast. Also, if I decide to move from ActiveRecord to MongoMapper for example (or even from Rails to PHP), I won’t have to touch my features and risk changing their validity.

I suppose it’s a toss up between speed and flexibility. In my case I have not found speed to be too much of an issue. I will report back if this starts to become an issue.

]]> By: Amos King http://thelucid.com/2010/02/07/why-i-stopped-using-pickle-with-cucumber/comment-page-1/#comment-2735 Amos King Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:35:05 +0000 http://thelucid.com/?p=558#comment-2735 If you already have the adding of that data tested in another cucumber test then you are just slowing down your tests by doing continuing to add that data through the ui every time. If you already have the adding of that data tested in another cucumber test then you are just slowing down your tests by doing continuing to add that data through the ui every time.

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